View Full Version : Parallels Desktop 3.0 for Mac and Windows Vista Boot Camp 1.3?
flaiodanny
Jun 7, 2007, 09:45 PM
Has anyone tried to use 3.0 and boot into Windows Vista? I cannot get it to work. I created the VM and Windows Vista boots up fine in Parallels, but once it has loaded and the welcome screen appears, the VM freezes and I cannot move the mouse, type, and everything stops (even the orange notification start bar boxes freeze).
Can someone help? I think it may have something to do with the fact that BC 1.3 just came out today as did Parallels, so there is some incompatibility. I've been watching the area by the clock in windows, where icons of running programs go, and I think it freezes right when Boot Camp tries to load.
alanh2856
Jun 7, 2007, 09:48 PM
Same issue! Right after it gets past the welcome screen it freezes. Any help out there?
flaiodanny
Jun 7, 2007, 09:53 PM
I would try to remove Boot Camp and see if it boots right in Parallels, but then I won't be able to boot directly to Vista (I'm using Vista Business, BTW).
Anymore people with the same problem?
Update: I booted into Vista in Safe Mode and everything worked, so I think that it is a problem with Boot Camp 1.3 or one of the drivers that boot up due to BC.
dfozzati
Jun 7, 2007, 10:37 PM
same issue, ive tried everything. I suspect that bootcamp 3.0 is the problem
iNfEk
Jun 8, 2007, 02:50 AM
yup same problem here as well. i posted my symptoms in another thread and someone lead me here.
it's when parallels is attempting to install parallel tools is when the freezing occurs. I was able to use vista if I cancelled the installation.
zhou Libo
Jun 8, 2007, 03:52 AM
I have the same problem and rather than that I can not connect to Interenet with PD3 and Vista BM1.2.
flaiodanny
Jun 8, 2007, 09:15 AM
How do you cancel the installation of parallels tools?
flaiodanny
Jun 8, 2007, 09:42 AM
I booted into safe mode and installed Parallels tools there, but when I boot into regular mode, it still freezes. Can someone from parallels help?
meatlocker
Jun 8, 2007, 09:53 AM
Same issue with Vista. This is a nightmare. Clearly there is a compatibility issue between Bootcamp 1.3 and Parallels 3.0. How in the world did you guys let this go out the door before testing it? The Bootcamp announcement came hours before you posted the download for 3.0. You could have held off for a day or two to get the fix in and tested. Seriously, unbelievable.
I will be requesting my refund today. Thank God Fusion Beta 4 is out.
komer83
Jun 8, 2007, 09:59 AM
looks like i have the same problem.
moving to fusion, it works, paralles doesnt...sorry dear developers, i wont buy your software.
flaiodanny
Jun 8, 2007, 10:03 AM
Is parallels known for releasing quick bug fixing versions? If not, I may be requesting a refund too.
VTMac
Jun 8, 2007, 10:20 AM
S\ How in the world did you guys let this go out the door before testing it? The Bootcamp announcement came hours before you posted the download for 3.0. You could have held off for a day or two to get the fix in and tested. Seriously, unbelievable.
You've got to be kidding!! Hours?? You think they have someone whose job is to refresh the apple page so that something at Apple doesn't change hours before they release!?!?!?!
You clearly have no clue about what goes into software development, and have expectations that are so far misaligned with reality that is nothing short of comedic.
If you want to be peeved, but peeved with Apple for their archaic secrecy policies that prevent 3rd party software developers from getting any sort of heads up on impending changes so that they can ensure compatibility.
I'm sure there will be a patch shortly, but to be po'ed because the Parallels magic 8 ball didn't tell them that Apple would be releasing a new version of Bootcamp today is just ridiculous.
flaiodanny
Jun 8, 2007, 10:25 AM
As long as there is a patch within the next week, I'm happy.
gooberdlx
Jun 8, 2007, 10:29 AM
I'm having the same issues... after Parallels incorrectly identified my Boot Camp partition as an XP install...
meatlocker
Jun 8, 2007, 11:11 AM
..............
meatlocker
Jun 8, 2007, 11:12 AM
You've got to be kidding!! Hours?? You think they have someone whose job is to refresh the apple page so that something at Apple doesn't change hours before they release!?!?!?!
You clearly have no clue about what goes into software development, and have expectations that are so far misaligned with reality that is nothing short of comedic.
If you want to be peeved, but peeved with Apple for their archaic secrecy policies that prevent 3rd party software developers from getting any sort of heads up on impending changes so that they can ensure compatibility.
I'm sure there will be a patch shortly, but to be po'ed because the Parallels magic 8 ball didn't tell them that Apple would be releasing a new version of Bootcamp today is just ridiculous.
Give me a break, fanboy. This is a company whose entire business model is predicated on what Apple releases and when. I assure you that there is indeed "someone who refreshes the Apple web page" or is more likely under NDA with Apple that there is an imminent release of Bootcamp coming.
Now go back to playing WOW in your parent's basement and leave the software development to the grownups that do this for a living.
fisherfrontier
Jun 8, 2007, 11:25 AM
Same issue here. Downloaded and installed the Apple Boot Camp 1.3 drivers for Vista. Then downloaded and installed Parallels 3.0. Then, when starting up Vista within Parallels 3.0, Vista locks up right around the time that the Boot Camp drivers are loading within Vista. I get a few seconds of mouse movement and keyboard functionality before Vista locks up, after which Parallels continues to consume approximately 105% of my iMac's CPU.
I'm guessing that this is something that the Parallels team will be able to overcome on their side; perhaps in a soon-to-be-released update?
Ankou
Jun 8, 2007, 11:51 AM
We are investigating these problems currently, if any incompatibility with Parallels Desktop 3.0 and Bootcamp 1.3 will be confirmed - it will be fixed very soon with the next minor (free) update for Parallels Desktop 3.0. Any feedback from you with the details on reproducing the problems you are experiencing will be helpful to us on investigating such issues.
VTMac
Jun 8, 2007, 12:37 PM
Give me a break, fanboy. This is a company whose entire business model is predicated on what Apple releases and when. I assure you that there is indeed "someone who refreshes the Apple web page" or is more likely under NDA with Apple that there is an imminent release of Bootcamp coming.
Now go back to playing WOW in your parent's basement and leave the software development to the grownups that do this for a living.
Fanboy?? Wow, that's really clever. And WOW and the writing code in parents basement .. sheer genius. How do you come with stuff? What street corner do you perform you act on??
Exactly what grown up software development things have you done? Some little perl script haxies?? Perhaps a bit of php on lamp?
Ammon
Jun 8, 2007, 12:39 PM
For me it seems to lock up when I see the "windows onecare" icon pop up in the tray, so I'm going to reboot into bootcamp and turn off onecare and see if that helps.
dolmar
Jun 8, 2007, 12:51 PM
The problem is not boot camp 1.3 it is something else. I installed Parallels 3.0 then picked my vista partition set it up. Just like everyone else it crashed and did not work. So I booted full screen and my Windows install was corrupt. So I re-installed Vista but did not install boot camp at all. Then I booted into OS X then loaded parallels and low and behold it installed th drivers and worked just fine. So then I booted back into windows and installed Boot camp 1.2 drivers and everything seem to work fine under boot camp. So i rebooted into OS X and loaded up the same vista partion and low and behold it crashes.
So the problem is not boot camp 1.2 or 1.3 it a bug in parallells drivers or software itself.
My Config is as following:
IMac 24" 2 gig ram, 50 Gig Boot Camp partion with 43 gig free, bridged network mode.
gooberdlx
Jun 8, 2007, 01:11 PM
Being a software developer... and having the mindset and gut feelings... I'd say that it would be a bad driver that's causing the lockup...
It just smells of driver issues. Either that or Parallels is getting a call that it doesn't like and it's not returning it back to the guest OS.
flaiodanny
Jun 8, 2007, 02:25 PM
I'm happy that someone from Parallels has said that they are working on it. Here are my details for them to try and replicate the error:
I have a new Santa Rosa MBP with 2GB RAM and 2.4Ghz processor, 160GB hard drive, and OS X 10.4.9. I have a 29GB partition for Windows Vista Business, which was installed using Boot Camp 1.3. I have Parallels Desktop 3.0 for Mac, and I setup the VM with OS as Windows Vista. Memory is 1024MB, Hard Disk 1 is Boot Camp, and the CD/DVD Rom is empty. Everything else is default.
The problem: I press play and Windows Vista starts to boot. I get to my login screen, where I can type in my password, and everything works. The desktop starts to load. I can move the mouse and keyboard around for maybe 30 seconds while things are loading. Then, the mouse suddenly freezes and I cannot type.
Now, I have booted into Safe Mode with the Parallels Tools CD mounted into that VM and have installed Parallels Tools. I can do everything fine in Safe Mode (besides networking and theme). However, after installing Parallels Tools via Safe Mode, when I boot into Windows Vista normal, the mouse now doesn't freeze but everything else does. I can't click on anything, it is just like a static picture and my mouse is flying over it.
Hope you can fix it soon. BTW, I can still boot directly into Windows via Boot Camp fine. Everything (including Aero) still works in Boot Camp.
iNfEk
Jun 8, 2007, 02:44 PM
as stated I don't think it's boot camp at all. I feel that the problem is with parallels 3.0 and their tools.
I used boot camp to install windows vista ultimate edition. It was able to find all drivers necessary after installation with no problems except no right click or control click bluetooth...etc. I installed boot camp drivers for 1.3 since thats the current version and all operated smoothly.
the problems occurred when I installed 3.0 for the first time and it noticed the boot camp partition. As soon as windows booted (VERY VERY SLOW BTW even with the maximum amount of memory). Parallels would how me the desktop picture and all icons on the deskop. I would be able to use anything but as soon as parallels started the service to install their tools is when processing STOPPED COMPLETELY and everything froze. the only way to get rid of this is to stop the virtual drive (which is bad) and restart it again and get a prompt stating that windows was shut down improperly.
I haven't used boot camp for windows xp through parallels but by the sounds of it things functioned. my thoughts on the matter was since we were pulling from the same HD from a different partition that this might happen. but there were no reports of this sort of thing with xp.
iNfEk
Jun 9, 2007, 12:53 AM
bumping up for those having the same problem that want it resolved
I don't have the issue yet (waiting for the 3.0 upgrade registration code), but for sure I won't try to boot my bootcamp vista under parallels until this issue is solved!!
Lozz
Jun 9, 2007, 06:13 AM
I have a temporary solutions, it may reduce some functionality when running vista under Boot Camp (at least until the problem is properly fixed) but it will run under Parallels properly.
I disabled all the start up items related to boot camp from the registry. There were 3 boot camp items and for me a Sigmatel audio item (iMac). You can run "msconfig" from the start menu search to disable these. I also disable 2 system services, "Apple Time Service" and "Sigmatel Audio Service", using "Manage" by alternate clicking "Computer". Your Mac might not have a Sigmatel audio chip so it doesn't matter if it isn't there.
By the way the problem will be caused by any one of these items/services. I'm going to start them one by one until it freezes and I'll report which one/s is/are the problem.
Lozz
Jun 9, 2007, 06:35 AM
Ok the culprit is the Keyboard Manager (KbdMgr.exe) it is launched from the registry. You can safely leave all startup items and system services running. Just use "msconfig" (see previous post) to disable KbdMgr.exe, it is one of the 3 called boot camp just look at the path to find which one. The Keyboard manager probably only maps the Apple, control and alt keys and probably adds foreign language support so you can probably get away without it (using Boot Camp). Although you can always run this item manually when ever you decide to use Boot Camp. You can just create a shortcut on the desktop but be careful not to use it in Parallels. :)
raejae
Jun 9, 2007, 08:57 AM
I can confirm this solves the freezing issue on my computer
MacBook Pro 1.83GHz Core Duo
2GB RAM/80GB HDD (20GB Boot Camp)
Vista Business with all updates installed
Boot Camp 1.3
jrittvo
Jun 9, 2007, 10:21 AM
I can also confirm that simply stopping kbdmgr.exe from loading at boot time finally let me get Parallels Tools installed, and there have been no subsequent freezes with it left not loading.
Zenara25
Jun 9, 2007, 10:53 AM
I have bootcamp 1.2 Vista Ultimate. Upgraded to parallels 3. Had a few issues (mouse and trackpad weren't recognized on 1st boot, networking, all resolved). But no problems booting through bootcamp or parallels. No freezing at all.
Still a weird ACPI driver issue where parallels installs an acpi driver then when using bootcamp a different acpi driver is installed. It just keeps going back and forth unresolved.
But I would say my experience is what I expected. This is something I enjoy playing with. But maybe not a good experience for those who don't love tinkering with settings.
charliez
Jun 9, 2007, 12:08 PM
For those with this problem, do you have a recently purchased MacBook or MacBook Pro? It might be something with the new chipset Apple uses in these machines.
I am having this problem too, and mine is a brand new MacBook purchased last week.
PuppyPR
Jun 9, 2007, 01:26 PM
I have bootcamp 1.2 Vista Ultimate. Upgraded to parallels 3. Had a few issues (mouse and trackpad weren't recognized on 1st boot, networking, all resolved). But no problems booting through bootcamp or parallels. No freezing at all.
Still a weird ACPI driver issue where parallels installs an acpi driver then when using bootcamp a different acpi driver is installed. It just keeps going back and forth unresolved.
But I would say my experience is what I expected. This is something I enjoy playing with. But maybe not a good experience for those who don't love tinkering with settings.
Ditto, I had Boot Camp 1.2 with Vista Ultimate and Paralles 3.0 ran without any problems. the I decided to upgrade to Boot Camp 1.3 (bad mistake), running Paralles 3.0 with Vista under Boot Camp 1.3 freezes the system.
I will try disabling the keyboard mngr.
charliez
Jun 9, 2007, 01:55 PM
Disabling kbdmgr.exe using msconfig.exe fixed the problem for me. I had to manually install Parallels Tools as I had been rebooting the VM a few times interrupting the previous installs.
Zenara25
Jun 9, 2007, 02:53 PM
Charliez quote "For those with this problem, do you have a recently purchased MacBook or MacBook Pro?"
I have the Macbook Core Duo not the newest Core 2 Duo. But as I stated above I'm not having any serious problems. So as Charliez mentioned maybe it's a problem with the newest Macs. Or bootcamp 1.3. Glad I decided not to install it yet.
STim
Jun 9, 2007, 03:05 PM
We have prepared a minor update to Parallels Desktop 3.0 that deals with this specific problem. You can download it from here (http://download.parallels.com/v3/en/GA/Parallels%20Desktop%204128%20Mac%20en.dmg)
Zenara25
Jun 9, 2007, 03:39 PM
Thanks that was fast. Now maybe I'll attempt bootcamp 1.3.
Chak
Jun 9, 2007, 03:59 PM
We have prepared a minor update to Parallels Desktop 3.0 that deals with this specific problem. You can download it from here (http://download.parallels.com/v3/en/GA/Parallels%20Desktop%204128%20Mac%20en.dmg)
I have Installed the Upgrade still no Boot camp...:(
see my other message
Today i removed my Boot Camp Partition
Installed Boot camp 1.3
Created 32 Gb Windows XP partition
Installed Windows XP pro
Done some test every thing is working fine.
finally created a new Vm using Boot Camp partition.
Still getting the same error
Unable to open disk image Boot Camp!
This can't be a final product if you support something and many people can't use it.
Parallels TEAM please help to solve my problem.
sandeep
Jun 9, 2007, 04:00 PM
that was quick, sweet...tried it, works like a charm...still getting a few bugs here and there...it asked to activate windows yesterday but it was already activated off of the bootcamp partition...i called in and got it activated. i too am having that issue of when i boot up the bootcamp partition natively,after having been in parallels it does some sort of aspi or something install and then asks for a reboot. it will be fine then on subsequent reboots into vista but then whenever i go back to parallels and then back to bootcamp vista after that, it comes back. also, whatever allows you to have internet on the parallel side of things kicks out every now and then allthough a mac browser works.
charliez
Jun 9, 2007, 05:16 PM
This build DOES NOT fix the kbdmgr.exe problem. I just tried it. Downloaded , upgraded, then launched Vista, re-enabled kbdmgr.exe, rebooted the VM, and it hung/froze as it did before.
Now I have to reboot into the bootcamp partition to remove kbdmgr.exe again.
Please DO NOT release half-baked, untested builds. Making users test your fixes for you is not a professional approach. Get a solid repro of the problem, and test it thoroughly.
I'm going ahead with my refund and going bye bye Parallels.
STim
Jun 9, 2007, 05:26 PM
This build DOES NOT fix the kbdmgr.exe problem. I just tried it. Downloaded , upgraded, then launched Vista, re-enabled kbdmgr.exe, rebooted the VM, and it hung/froze as it did before.
Now I have to reboot into the bootcamp partition to remove kbdmgr.exe again.
Please DO NOT release half-baked, untested builds. Making users test your fixes for you is not a professional approach. Get a solid repro of the problem, and test it thoroughly.
I'm going ahead with my refund and going bye bye Parallels.
While requesting a refund and before uninstalling Parallels, please check if the problem is not there if you shut down/start Vista again instead of rebooting it. Thank you in advance.
chief
Jun 9, 2007, 06:58 PM
I was experiencing the freezing issue with my Vista Business Botcamp installation with Parallels and spent 10 hours trying to get it to work: re-installed Vista twice, backed up the mac and then clean install of Tiger, Bootcamp and Vista.
I downloaded the new Parallels version posted in this version and the problem is fixed. No more freezing after booting my bootcamp Vista with Parallels. Sometime it is frustrating to be an early adopter but at least the Parallels team came back with a quick update: thanks.
bombastinator
Jun 9, 2007, 09:01 PM
Us mac users are such weenies about incompatibilities.
With macs everything just works, and we get real use to that. Incompatibilities are the norm with other operating systems, Linux especially. As a frequent Linux user I can tell you that with Linux you can pretty much assume that something is going to break at least temporarily whenever there is a series of patches. They usually get it going again, but it takes at least a few days.
All you folks screaming about Fusion I guarantee that the same kind of thing is going to happen to you there eventually. The only difference ATM is that Fusion hasn't been upgraded in a while. See what happens at the next update.
I am actually more supprised that Apple wasn't more careful with the new driver. VM is a major killer app for Apple and it would behoove them to protect it.
This is not to say that this is a major issue, and I do think Paralles should either get this fixed by mid week or release a statement saying when they think it may be done by. Did anyone notice it was Saturday btw? The engineers are out for the weekend. They may not even know this is happening yet.
P.S.
Yes this is an apologist statement, and no it is not my policy to blindly support parallels. I've done my share of complaining too, but Jeeze people!
charliez
Jun 9, 2007, 09:02 PM
There should be a clear read me. I needed to reboot not just Vista. But also MacOSX:
1. Download build 4128
2. Install build 4128
3. Reboot MacOS X (seems you need to do this because of services from build 4124 is still running after build 4128 is installed).
4. Create your Vista VM using custom from Boot Camp partition
5. Install Parallel Tools, and allow the various drivers to install
I can see that with 4128 you do the magic by removing kbdmgr.exe at Vista startup, and restore that at VM shutdown.
This should have been an easy experience.
charliez
Jun 9, 2007, 09:07 PM
Us mac users are such weenies about incompatibilities.
With macs everything just works, and we get real use to that. Incompatibilities are the norm with other operating systems, Linux especially. As a frequent Linux user I can tell you that with Linux you can pretty much assume that something is going to break at least temporarily whenever there is a series of patches. They usually get it going again, but it takes at least a few days.
LOL, I'm in a much better mood now that I've got it going (but without coherence, WTF ?????) That's precisely why people are yelling. People bought Macs so they don't have to deal with Linux incompatibilities, or past complexities of Windows (well there are still many with Vista, but at least it feels more usable like a proper Mac clone).
The excuse of "deal with it, it could be worse" is not acceptable with Macs. People spend money expecting it to just work. Otherwise, might as well use the other OSs.
bombastinator
Jun 9, 2007, 11:41 PM
There should be a clear read me. I needed to reboot not just Vista. But also MacOSX:
1. Download build 4128
2. Install build 4128
3. Reboot MacOS X (seems you need to do this because of services from build 4124 is still running after build 4128 is installed).
4. Create your Vista VM using custom from Boot Camp partition
5. Install Parallel Tools, and allow the various drivers to install
I can see that with 4128 you do the magic by removing kbdmgr.exe at Vista startup, and restore that at VM shutdown.
This should have been an easy experience.
You got a functional work around? Mad props to charliez! You Rock! I'm going to make a new thread with a foot note to our man here with the fix so folks can see it immediately.
PuppyPR
Jun 10, 2007, 12:53 AM
I have installed the new Parallels 3.0 build and the problem with Boot Camp 1.3 was solved. Kudos to Parallels/Swsoft team. I'm still having issues trying to install the Parallels Tools on Vista.
Charliez, stop crying. VMWare Fusion Beta 4 does not haver support to Unity on Vista, Parallels doest have Coherence on Vista. That is a must for me.
PuppyPR
Jun 10, 2007, 01:21 AM
I have installed the new Parallels 3.0 build and the problem with Boot Camp 1.3 was solved. Kudos to Parallels/Swsoft team. I'm still having issues trying to install the Parallels Tools on Vista.
Charliez, stop crying. VMWare Fusion Beta 4 does not haver support to Unity on Vista, Parallels doest have Coherence on Vista. That is a must for me.
Ok, just restart Parallels and install the Parallels Tools, it works flawlessly. thanks again Swsoft/Parallels team.
twynne
Jun 10, 2007, 07:33 AM
What's everyone else's experience with the performance of a Vista Boot Camp VM as opposed to a normal Windows XP VM?
On my new MBP (2.4ghz, 2GB memory, 7200rpm drive) the XP VM seems to consume about 20% cpu when idle. The Vista VM idles at about 50% CPU and dramatically higher when doing even the simplest of tasks.
Is your experience similar or is there something wrong with my installation? If this is expected, is Vista performance likely to improve in future Parallels releases?
To be clear - the above has nothing to do with Aero and I'm not concerned about running Aero, I'm merely interested in VM performance.
Thanks,
Tom
Zenara25
Jun 10, 2007, 09:47 AM
I'm still having problems with an ACPI driver being installed in parallels then when I go into bootcamp it installs another acpi driver. If my copy of Vista Ultimate was activated already Windows would sure be bugging me alot. I tried upgrading to 4128 and to bootcamp 1.3
I know that at least one other person on a Macbook Pro with an activated (must not be much fun activating all the time) Vista Business edition is having this same problem.
I'm on a Macbook Core Duo (not pro or Core 2 Duo)
mkrosse
Jun 10, 2007, 09:48 AM
Installed 4128; rebooted Mac; rebuilt VM for Vista Bootcamp. Unfortunately - still no keyboard or mouse - Vista just sits there at logon screen and eventually goes into screen saver mode. It does not respond to any keyboard or mouse input on MacBook Pro with BC 1.3 & Vista Ultimate.
dippyskoodlez
Jun 10, 2007, 10:20 AM
Installed 4128; rebooted Mac; rebuilt VM for Vista Bootcamp. Unfortunately - still no keyboard or mouse - Vista just sits there at logon screen and eventually goes into screen saver mode. It does not respond to any keyboard or mouse input on MacBook Pro with BC 1.3 & Vista Ultimate.
Try plugging a usb mouse in, and dedicating that to the VM. Once you get parallels tools installed, it works great.
It just seems getting parallels tools installed is a pain at the moment.
DExplore97
Jun 10, 2007, 01:22 PM
My process was to uninstall build 4124 and reboot Mac OS X. I then installed build 4128. I booted into Vista Boot Camp and re-enabled keybdmr.exe. Rebooted into Mac OSX and booted into Parallels. Everything worked fine. I even got the iSight cam to work.
Great posts in this thread. I am a new Parallels user and thanks to this thread, I am very happy with it.
How cool is it that a fix was posted by Parallels so quickly! I wish othe software manufacturers were so responsive.
stuartrice
Jun 10, 2007, 01:29 PM
As I said in another post, I started with a clean installation of EVERYTHING. Parallels 3.0 is running beautifully, with Coherence, networking, etc.
flaiodanny
Jun 10, 2007, 09:08 PM
Parallels now works for Vista with me, but I now cannot get Vista to load in Boot Camp 1.3. Anyone else with this problem?
allenranger2
Jun 11, 2007, 07:35 PM
Well, I'm able to get BootCamp 1.3 drivers installed on Vista Ultimate, however I'm having it freeze in the first 30 seconds. After reading the forums, I was able to start in safe mode and disable the keyboardmanager, and I'm on Parallels 4128.
I'm sure that Parallels is looking into this, so I won't bother with that.
My question, however, is whether anyone's been able to get Aero to work on Vista? I have enabled Direct X support, and both with and without BootCamp video drivers, I'm still not getting Aero. In Device Manager, Paralllels is still my video driver. Anyone having similar issues?
** edit: please disregard Aero issue, I have just found out that Aero requires DX9, and at the moment, Parallels is DX 8. **
macloverNUE
Jun 12, 2007, 11:58 AM
hi,
i have the same problem
i am running vista ultimate under a bootcamp partition. now i installed the latest parallels build 4128. but i cannot bring the mouse or the keyboard alive once the windows logon screen is reached. the system seems to be frozen.
moreover i don't have the kbdmgr.exe running as i am using inputremapper ...
the worst thing i did was to set the usb-hid-device to the virtual machine and after that i could not even use the mouse and keyboard on mac os anymore ... :confused:
any ideas ?
cheers
jerryc
Jun 12, 2007, 03:35 PM
For me, I have 2 Boot Camp drives (They're actually on one HD but for some reason, Vista created them when I originally installed it.....)
I just got Boot Camp 1.3 and made a new drivers CD..... I have Parallels 3.0/4128 and I get the message about "non-standard" Boot Camp.... I've tried manually editing the .pvs file...no luck so far.
I'm "not dead yet" though ;-)
mralston
Jun 14, 2007, 04:44 PM
I've got Vista installed on a Boot Camp and had the same problem when I booted it in Parallels Desktop 3.0.
It boots to the login screen then freezes, keyboard and mouse apparently not working.
I was about to give up and wait for a patch when I noticed that the hard drive icon on the Parallels status bar was going like the clappers.
I'm pretty used to Vista going very slowly every so often so decided to leave it for a while. I would hit a few keys and wiggle the mouse every so often. Eventually the keyboard started typing into the password box.
I logged in to Vista. They keyboard now seemed happy but the mouse was a no-go. Luckily I'm very used to working without a mouse in Windows so that didn't cause me a problem.
Slowly (very, very slowly) but surely Parallels Tools installed themselves. There wasn't much indication what it was doing other than the warning box you get telling you not to reboot. Every so often Windows would throw up an unsigned driver warning which I would except. After about a quarter of an hour it finished installing Parallels Tools.
The VM rebooted and it now all works (including the mouse).
It is still very very slow. I've not used Parallels for a few months due to the lack of Vista support, but I always found that when running a native Parallels VM it runs quickly but when running a Boot Camp installation under Parallels it is very slow. That was the case with XP, and seems to be still the case with Vista.
I'm going to boot up in Boot Camp mode next and disable Apple's keyboard manager thingie. It gets on my nerves anyway as it remaps a lot of the keys to places I can't find them!
With a bit of luck I might end up with a Vista install that works well in Boot Camp and Parallels. Or hell might freeze over. :)
jeffsure
Jun 14, 2007, 05:25 PM
I can't boot into my Bootcamp installation of Vista using Parallels v3.0 either, but I get a different error. I can't even get to the login screen, as I'm immediately presented with this screen:
http://homepage.mac.com/j_surette/vista_error.jpg
Booting directly into Vista using Bootcamp works fine. I'm not at all familiar with the Windows file system, but it looks like bootmgr is missing. Can anyone give me hint as to what to do to fix this, or is it even worth trying? Should I wait for v3.1?
Virion
Jun 15, 2007, 10:21 PM
Installed 4128; rebooted Mac; rebuilt VM for Vista Bootcamp. Unfortunately - still no keyboard or mouse - Vista just sits there at logon screen and eventually goes into screen saver mode. It does not respond to any keyboard or mouse input on MacBook Pro with BC 1.3 & Vista Ultimate.
I have this same issue, but with XP. Whatever Parallels Tools did while installing has destroyed my keyboard and mouse support when I reboot directly into Windows. I can't gain mouse control in either, but was able to access my boot camp partion through another VM, removing the kbdmgr as well as any extra programs, still no luck. Either way I boot into my boot camp partition I'm met with a flurry of driver installs that stall on the video driver or require access to user prompts I can't click.
I've tried directly adding a dedicated USB mouse to no avail, this is rather disappointing as I've already had to create files merely for Parallels to acknowledge my boot camp partition's existence. Anyone have any idea what to do now?
mkrosse
Jul 11, 2007, 08:42 PM
Has parallels support fixed this problem with loss of kybrd/mouse on vista bootcamp boot? its now been nearly a month.
neg22685
Jul 13, 2007, 06:41 PM
I'm having the same issue on my new MBP 2.4ghz
daveidixon
Jul 13, 2007, 08:53 PM
Oh man :(
I've been trying out VMWare fusion and it works well with vista and bootcamp, but pegs the cpus at 50% each even when vista is not doing anything. I was hoping to use Parallels (my wife uses it with XP) but after reading all of these posts, I think I should hold off until they post a fix
pjdhunt
Jul 15, 2007, 05:18 PM
I am experiencing the exact same symptoms. Only I am not running bootcamp.
I did realize that the last change I had made was the latest windows vista update and during the reboot I added a parallel port.
After reading this forum I decided to go back to basics and think about what had changed.
I removed that parallel port and my screen no longer freezes during the login.
kakadoo
Jul 17, 2007, 01:22 AM
to make the long story short
i just took my MBP 2.2GHz out of the box. powered it up annd installed boot camp, vista on bootcamp parallels and virtual machine form parallels
everything went PEACHY.
needed to activate vista twice (parallels does not recognize the bootcamp activation)
two problems persist:
1. when booting in parallels after using vista in boot camp or viceversa the ACPI drivers reinstall themselves and vista reboot is required
2. Photoshop CS and Premier pro 1.5 will not run in parallels (from boot camp partition). when started, the application loads fully , requires activation and even though the activation is successful it shows an error about "wrong DLL type" prompting software reinstallation .
another annoying problem is the 1500MBRAM and 64MB video limit. i use windows mosetly for professional application that require large ram allocations like matlab and other dedicated data processors. teh 1500 is annoying. i could easily dedicate twice that .
overalll i am happy with the preformance of parallels 3.0 but would love to see a a quick fix to the outstanding issues
K
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