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Internal build 1910 for Mac Pro and iMac Core 2 Duo

Sep 23, 2006, 10:15 AM
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Internal build 1910 for Mac Pro and iMac Core 2 Duo
Hello everyone,

We are continuing our efforts to deliver a Parallels Desktop for Mac version that fully supports Mac Pro and iMac Core 2 Duo.

There's an updated internal build that is available for early testing which can be downloaded from here.
Please don't forget to backup any sensitive data on your Mac before proceeding to evaluation.

This version introduces a number of important fixes:
* VM crash on restart on huge memory MacPros in VT-x mode.
* Several VMs simultaneous work.
* Win98 guest 100% CPU usage
* WinNT not being able to start fix
* Several other fixes

We're still extremely interested in your feedback about this build and any issues you might face.

Best regards,
Tim
Sep 23, 2006, 10:32 AM
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Sweet! Mac Pro here, 3ghz, 4gb RAM. Was running 1848, installed 1910 over it, and it works beautifully. No KPs, tools work, nicely done, ||s :)
Sep 23, 2006, 11:25 AM
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Quick Start Guide broken
In the 1910 .dmg the Parallels Desktop for Mac Quick Start Guide.pdf file produces an error message when you try to open it.

Preview.app says "File Error. Couldn't open the file"

Adobe Acrobat Reader 7 says "There was an error opening this document. The file is damaged and could not be repaired."

The full User Guide.pdf opens correctly. Also, the Quick Start .pdf from build 1908 opens correctly.
Sep 23, 2006, 11:42 AM
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So far, so good!!!

One question, though... Do I need to re-install Parallels Tools after Windows boots up?

Thanks for the great work!!!

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Sep 23, 2006, 11:48 AM
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By the way, DVD Shrink seems to be working now, too! :)

Ooops... Spoke too soon... Worked with one disc and not the other...

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Sep 23, 2006, 02:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pastrychef
One question, though... Do I need to re-install Parallels Tools after Windows boots up?
YES you do.

Mac Pro 2.66 Ghz 3 GB RAM. So far, so good. I didn't have any problems with 1908, except for the disabled VT-X. I haven't seen that message yet, so maybe that is fixed too.

My method:
1. Download Parallels
2. Use downloaded uninstaller to uninstall previous version
3. Install new version
4. Start new version (got the warning to reboot my mac, which I did and returned to this step)
5. Start existing Win XP SP2 VM
6. Immediately install Parallels Tools and reboot VM.
Sep 23, 2006, 02:49 PM
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Works great, just like 1884, 1892.6 and 1908 on my iMac. The only one I had problems with was 1848.

2.0Ghz
1Gb RAM
Core 2 Duo.
Sep 23, 2006, 02:58 PM
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Ok, I didn't do all the necessary steps because I was in a hurry. By that I mean, I didn't uninstall, restart, install, restart etc. So I used it again and it crashed but this is what Activity Monitor said:

Parallels not responding - CPU % 2.20 - #Threads 16 - Real Memory 75.04MB - Virtual Memory 2.25GB - Kind Intel

Read In: 47151
Read Out: 18075
Data Read: 828.82 MB
Data Written: 276.63MB

41 IO/sec

I'm gonna go through the whole process of uninstalling, but does that tell you guys anything so far? BRB in a few.
Sep 23, 2006, 11:53 AM
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Upgraded from 1898 (working fine except for the memory reduction). Reinstalled Parallel Tools fine in XP Pro, no problems at all except the Quick Start Guide PDF has an error as mentioned above. Memory is back up to 2GB from 1.95GB with 1898.

Mac Pro 3Ghz, 2GB, AP+BT
Sep 23, 2006, 12:12 PM
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"poof" - no improvement from 1908
I did the uninstall - install 1910 thing and launched the WinXP VM I described in this post.

Just as before the VM starts, shows the initial Win splash screen, expands to the desired window resolution but before it can display anything else, it vanishes and we are back to the property display.

As before no message or diagnostic, and nothing in the os x console window.

This is the last time I'm gonna offer: I'd be happy to download a trace-enabled version or do any other kind of debugging you want that would get some traction on this problem which MAKES PARALLELS USELESS TO ME. Sorry, patience running a little thin there... or if you want I can quote the .pvs file here, or whatever would help. I have the developer tools installed...

let me just add, the only thing I can think of that would make my setup any different from typical is, both the .pvs file and the .hdd virtual disk are on a different volume (on a different physical drive) from the volume that contains /Applications and /Users. So not in the usual default location in ~/Documents.
Sep 23, 2006, 12:30 PM
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I am having no problems with 1910 either on my Mac Pro 2.66 x1900 w/4GB of RAM (all RAM active.)

I installed right over 1908.

I even ran Vista RC1 57xx and XP at the same time with no issues.

My PVS file is on my main drive, but my HDDs are on another drive.

I have yet to see the crashes when restarting VMs that I saw before, but it is still too early to tell. Nice work so far!

One bug: Running a VM sets my Mac's volume pretty high. I have to manually turn it down.
Sep 23, 2006, 01:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thorby
....let me just add, the only thing I can think of that would make my setup any different from typical is, both the .pvs file and the .hdd virtual disk are on a different volume (on a different physical drive) from the volume that contains /Applications and /Users. So not in the usual default location in ~/Documents.
Thorby...before you throw in the towel...why not make a "usual default location" and see if it works? That could eliminate at least one possible problem area, and give the techs a fairer chance to help you.
Sep 23, 2006, 02:02 PM
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Mac Pro still just hangs on startup
I installed 1910 over 1908. Started Parallels. Started a Windows XP VM that I had from my MacBook Pro install. I get an immediate beachball and the everything stops being reponsive.
Sep 23, 2006, 02:08 PM
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1910 works fine on MacPro 2 x 3 Ghz, 2 GB Ram
Upgraded over 1908; no problems.
Sep 23, 2006, 02:14 PM
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"spullara": try opening Activity Monitor, sort by "CPU", and switch the bottom to disk activity.

When everything stops being responsive, does Activity Monitor continue to work? What does the Disk I/O part indicate?
Sep 23, 2006, 05:40 PM
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"poof" - no improvement from 1908
Quote:
Originally Posted by thorby
Just as before the VM starts, shows the initial Win splash screen, expands to the desired window resolution but before it can display anything else, it vanishes and we are back to the property display.
Thorby,
I had the same "poof" that you describe, except it was the BIOS splash screen that returned to the Parallels Property Screen. It started in 1892 after the reboot of a Windows Update that crashed everything. There was nothing that I could do to get that VM running again.
When Parallels released 1898, I uninstalled 1892 and installed 1898 and the result was the same "poof" with that VM. The exact same think happed with 1908, but others were running 1908 fine.
I finally decided that the VM was hopelessly trashed. I didn't want to rebuild it because it had a lot of software installed. The build of a new VM under 1908 went just fine along with all of my other software and all of the Windows and Office updates. Sometimes you just need to start over with Beta software.
I think you need to give up on your VM. It may also be hopelessly trashed.
Art
Sep 23, 2006, 09:02 PM
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I uninstalled and reinstalled 1910. I created a new set of VM settings and pointed it at an old install of WinXP and it crashed the computer most of the way through the boot up sequence. No reported KP just a freeze. Are most of the people on here installing from scratch?
Sep 24, 2006, 02:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spullara
I uninstalled and reinstalled 1910. I created a new set of VM settings and pointed it at an old install of WinXP and it crashed the computer most of the way through the boot up sequence. No reported KP just a freeze. Are most of the people on here installing from scratch?
Same thing here. It was working fine yesterday. Fired it up today, and it froze my whole Mac as soon as I tried to log in to XP. Had to hard reboot. I'm afraid to even try again at this point.
Sep 24, 2006, 02:13 PM
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I think you need to give up on your VM. It may also be hopelessly trashed.
Well, maybe. But consider:

* I have an Ubuntu VM that has twice "poofed" but most of the time comes up and runs.

* The WinXP VM never crashed on its own, it was running fine thru several Windows reboots and Parallels launches before it started "poofing". The first time it vanished was after Win had come up and was setting up my "personal settings". The next time and every succeeding time, it is very early in boot -- early enough that the next time, Win doesn't know it failed to come up (doesn't offer "safe mode").

Then there's the question, What exactly would be "trashed"? Either the contents of the .hdd, or the contents of the .pvs. The .pvs file is editable. In the prior build I made a new Win VM (this one) and while it was working, I used BBEdit to compare its .pvs to the .pvs of a previous Win VM that poofed every time up. There was only one diff, I think it was Enable write-back disk cache, and I changed the old bad one to match the new, then-good one, and it still failed. So it wasn't the .pvs.

Now I'm trying to imagine what Parallels (or Windows) could have done to the contents of the hdd such that Windows would not crash but the emulator just stops with no message of any kind from either Windows or Parallels. If Windows is corrupted, it would produce some kind of diagnostic, if only a BSOD. Or maybe it would loop or hang but in any case, the VM display screen would remain! And this magical disk corruption, with Ubuntu sometimes fails and sometimes doesn't.

Thus I just don't think that .hdd corruption is a credible explanation. To me the explanation is a bug in Parallels itself, probably a wild memory store, that makes it erroneously think the VM has halted or that the user has clicked the red button. That's the only way I see to account for no message of any kind -- which to me is the most significant symptom of the whole thing! (The dog that didn't howl in the nighttime...)

I think there's a software flag "VM is running" and somehow it is getting set to "false" and so Parallels just cleans up and stops. Speculatively, maybe it gets hit based on the value of some random location in the VM's memory -- which would explain why a Win VM will run great until one day it changes the magic bytes of its disk image to some innocent value that triggers the Parallels bug. And from then on, it poofs.
Sep 23, 2006, 01:10 PM
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Still no go on VT-x
Did an uninstall, restart, and install. Still running in software virtualization mode. Still need to put machine to sleep first to get VT-x.

Mac Pro 3GHz
 


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