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Should I upgrade to Vista from within Paralles?

Jan 24, 2007, 02:03 PM
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chuckf11
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Should I upgrade to Vista from within Paralles?
I have XP pro as my Guest OS. Sometime down the road I would like to try Vista. I current use XP to do any .Net development. My question is can I use the Vista Upgrade DVD to upgrade my XP pro to Vista. I was thinking that when I install XP pro, using the Wizard there is a question about your operating system either XP or Vista. I was going to select Vista, then install XP. Does anyone have any info if this would work?

Thanks
Jan 24, 2007, 04:13 PM
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dkp
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chuckf11
I have XP pro as my Guest OS. Sometime down the road I would like to try Vista. I current use XP to do any .Net development. My question is can I use the Vista Upgrade DVD to upgrade my XP pro to Vista. I was thinking that when I install XP pro, using the Wizard there is a question about your operating system either XP or Vista. I was going to select Vista, then install XP. Does anyone have any info if this would work?

Thanks
Make a backup copy of your vm folder to CD or DVD first. If it doesn't work you can easily get back to your original version quickly.

There may not be enough space on your Windows VM drive for the upgrade - it should tell you this. If that's the case then resize the drive. This may be enough of a hardware change that XP will complain about registering the product. Send MSFT a thank you card. Try the upgrade and take notes. If you do it in a window then OS X can be used to take screen shots of critical screens you can share with the rest of us.

If the whole thing blows up then send MSFT another thank you card and copy your vm archives from the CD and try again, or just create a new Vista vm. You can have both installed and running at the same time if you have Licenses for both products.
Jan 29, 2007, 07:07 PM
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drapsag
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This won't work.

Vista requires ACPI support. Your install of Windows XP in Parallels does not have this support and there's no way to enable it that I can find. Therefore, Vista will not install as an upgrade. You must do a clean install inside a new VM but if you bought a Vista upgrade, that won't work either as the upgrade requires a current install of XP to install. Even having your current XP media won't work like it used to. Microsoft changed the upgrade rules to require a current, activated Windows install to upgrade.
Jan 29, 2007, 07:44 PM
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I haven't tried it myself but Microsoft upgrades don't usually require you to have an installation in place. Having the disk is enough. At some point in the process of installing Vista, it'll ask you for the disk. If you put it in the DVD drive, that should be enough for the installer to continue.

Now keep in mind I haven't tried it at all so I don't know if it's possible for Parallels to capture both disks (Vista and XP) at install time in a new VM, but in theory, the idea is that you don't need an install of XP already in place in order to install Vista upgrade editions.
Jan 29, 2007, 07:54 PM
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Zolk
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pleiades
I haven't tried it myself but Microsoft upgrades don't usually require you to have an installation in place. Having the disk is enough. At some point in the process of installing Vista, it'll ask you for the disk. If you put it in the DVD drive, that should be enough for the installer to continue.
In Vista this is no longer the case. You must upgrade from within an existing installation of 2000 or XP.

Therefore, the question is: How are we supposed to install upgrade editions of Vista in Parallels? With no ACPI support, it looks like it's not possible as of now. I should be receiving a copy of Business Upgrade through Microsoft's Action Pack soon and I'm wondering how I'll get it running in Parallels.
Jan 30, 2007, 10:14 AM
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drapsag
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For a Vista upgrade to work, you must have a working copy of Windows 2000 or XP installed and activated already. Verifying media no longer works. The thinking here is that too many people buy an upgrade and then use a friend's CD to verify with. So they actually don't own a copy of Windows already and are getting upgrade pricing without having an original license.

That being said, I haven't found a way to install a Vista upgrade into Parallels. I tried to upgrade an existing, working Windows XP VM but it doesn't have ACPI support, so the upgrade doesn't work. I tried to create a new Vista VM and install Windows XP into it, but that doesn't work either because XP will not install into a Vista VM - at least I couldn't get it to work.

So, I guess we're hosed without purchasing the full version of Vista. At least until the Parallels team comes up with a plan.
Jan 31, 2007, 03:12 PM
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MSUDVM
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A newby question. How do I boot from a dvd within my XP VM?

Dan
Jan 31, 2007, 03:17 PM
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ZBoT
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MSUDVM
A newby question. How do I boot from a dvd within my XP VM?
The Vista upgrade DVD within an XP VM? That will not work because lack of ACPI support. You need to create a new Vista VM and install a clean copy of Vista and the upgrade that. Just read this thread and you will figure out what you need to do.
Jan 31, 2007, 04:41 PM
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dentate
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As I mentioned on another thread--but maybe someone here can help--I downloaded Vista Upgrade Ultimate from the website rather than purchasing the DVD. I get the ACPI message. I can't boot from the file. Is there a way to make a bootable DVD from these files, OR is there a way I can use the files to install to a new VM? If not I will have to try to "return" the download (it's called a Letter of Destruction) and order the DVD instead...:(
Feb 6, 2007, 09:43 AM
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spinxter
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dentate
As I mentioned on another thread--but maybe someone here can help--I downloaded Vista Upgrade Ultimate from the website rather than purchasing the DVD. I get the ACPI message. I can't boot from the file. Is there a way to make a bootable DVD from these files, OR is there a way I can use the files to install to a new VM? If not I will have to try to "return" the download (it's called a Letter of Destruction) and order the DVD instead...:(
As I stated earlier in this thread... install one of the betas of Vista and then upgrade it.
Feb 6, 2007, 12:03 PM
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cstraughn
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Parallels team working on ACPI upgrade fix...
Got word from them today, they are working on the problem and should have a fix soon.
Jan 31, 2007, 05:38 PM
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MSUDVM
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Thanks zBot, I misunderstood the thread that you were able to UPGRADE an XP install, but I see now that the ACPI issue prevents that. Is there a way you can back upo applications and data from the XP VM and then reinstall that to the Vista Vm, or will I need to reinstall all applications and data?

Dan
 


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