VT-X disabled by firmware update?
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Apr 6, 2006, 11:44 AM
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elektroholunder Junior Member Join: Apr 2006 Posts: 8 |
VT-X disabled by firmware update? Hi everybody, I tried Workstation on my Core Duo Mac Mini; apart from what I think are probably beta issues (no full screen possible etc), everything works great - I'm definitely buying licenses when the release is out. If it's priced at 49,95 as the versions for the other host systems, it's a steal .. But: after my trial I installed Boot Camp and did a native XP install; since the necessary firmware update, launching a VM brings up the message that VT-X is present but disabled. Is it possible for me to reactivate VT-X in Open Firmware somehow, or is this a matter which must be solved by a new Workstation release? Cheers, Jan |
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Apr 6, 2006, 12:17 PM
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anshar Member Join: Mar 2006 Posts: 81 |
It is really interesting question! If we list 3 available Macs in terms of VT-x support we will have following: 1. iMac - VT supported and enabled. 2. MacBook - VT supported and enabled. 3. Mac mini - VT supported but disabled. Is it intention of Apple to reduce Mac mini functionality or just firmware bug - I don't know... __________________ Best Regards, anshar |
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Apr 6, 2006, 12:38 PM
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elektroholunder Junior Member Join: Apr 2006 Posts: 8 |
As Boot Camp, the respective firmware and Workstation for OS X are all brand-spanking new, I wouldn't jump to any conclusions yet. I'd say there is probably just a glitch in the combination of these three - at least I really, really hope so. Being able to use Minis in our corporate environment would so rock :) |
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Apr 6, 2006, 12:48 PM
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daveschroeder Member Join: Apr 2006 Posts: 67 |
This has nothing to do with the firmware update. VT is not enabled on any Intel-based Mac mini. |
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Apr 6, 2006, 01:34 PM
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daveschroeder Member Join: Apr 2006 Posts: 67 |
I've just been talking with an engineer at Apple, and the thinking right now is that it is unintentional and is a bug. I have passed his contact information on to the Parallels team. |
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Apr 6, 2006, 01:47 PM
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elektroholunder Junior Member Join: Apr 2006 Posts: 8 |
Thanks Dave, that certainly is good news! So I'm waiting for the things to come from Apple in this regard. On a different note: I haven't really worked with VMs before, and especially not on the Mac, so please forgive me if this is a stupid question, but: what is the best way to exchange files between VM and host - i.e., make office documents created in the VM available to OS X? |
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Apr 6, 2006, 02:01 PM
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perdurabo Junior Member Join: Apr 2006 Posts: 16 |
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Apr 7, 2006, 10:47 AM
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DaveGee Junior Member Join: Apr 2006 Posts: 4 |
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For various reasons I just don't want to fork out the cash for a Core Duo iMac or Mac Book Pro (I'm really holding out for the desktop machines) but with all this bootcamp and even more sexy to me virtulazation (I'm not really a gamer so this is just up my ally) the mini was looking like a real option to bide-my-time. Like I said I'm not a hard core gamer by any stretch so I can pretty much forgive the built in graphics (not happy but I can deal) but when I read that VT was crippled / disabled and or in some way not available stopped me in my tracks. I hated to think it was done 'just to be nasty' aka a pure and heartless marketing move without any cost savings associated with it but it was the first thing that jumped into my head. Sure save a few bucks not having an ATI chipset (gulp well okay) but no VT when it is working fine everywhere else... That I couldn't forgive Apple for. Well anyway I'm glad to read what you posted and I and I'm sure many others are quite interested in hearing anything more you might find out. Thanks for (pretty much) restoring my faith in Apple. :D Dave |
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Apr 7, 2006, 11:57 AM
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Scott Willsey Senior Member Join: Apr 2006 Posts: 174 |
Question for those with core duo minis who installed bootcamp and then found vt-x not working... is the firmware upgrade for bootcamp different than the firmware Update 1.0 that came out on the 6th or so? The reason I ask is I have not installed bootcamp yet, but I have installed 10.4.6, I have installed firmware update 1.0, and I have installed the parallels workstation trial and I do have VT-x support working. I was planning on doing bootcamp shortly but now I'm wondering. |
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Apr 7, 2006, 11:57 AM
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waa Junior Member Join: Apr 2006 Posts: 1 |
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Apr 7, 2006, 12:31 PM
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daveschroeder Member Join: Apr 2006 Posts: 67 |
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__________________ Dave Schroeder University of Wisconsin - Madison das@doit.wisc.edu http://das.doit.wisc.edu |
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Apr 15, 2006, 10:45 PM
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MacFanatic Junior Member Join: Apr 2006 Posts: 1 |
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I suspect if Apple has set the mini that way, it won't be long before someone figures out how to fix it! |
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Apr 16, 2006, 09:31 AM
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NoBackUp Member Join: Apr 2006 Posts: 30 |
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what are people complaining about, i have 2 Mini's both updated and VT-x is working on Both, I even used the RECOVERY CD to downgrade one and reinstalled it again , same result .. I even booted via Boot Camp into Native and use the Intel CPUID util...which also tells me that VT-X is available and supported... Looks Like every one is trying to "Make" everyone else belive that this is an issue.. From My research and PHYSICAL testing I would say it ant an issue or did I miss something ? |
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Apr 16, 2006, 12:11 PM
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dr_lha Junior Member Join: Apr 2006 Posts: 18 |
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That said, I rarely reboot my machine, so having it work after a sleep basically means it works 99.99% of the time. |
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May 23, 2006, 12:24 PM
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crchad Junior Member Join: May 2006 Posts: 3 |
Something Overlooked? I found this thread after getting the VT-x disabled message when I started Parallels today. It worked yesterday (after first installing) without a message, as others have stated. I've tried the various sleep/pulling-the-plug etc tricks, without success. There's a lot of talk about whether VT-x is enabled on different firmware/serial combinations. But isn't it overlooking the elephant in the room? Couldn't it simply be a bug, sorry a "feature", with Parallels that's causing it to be disabled, or reported as disabled? Why did it work first time but give an error after the Mac is rebooted? I'd say there's two possible choices: 1. It didn't detect the setting was disabled the first time it ran. 2. It changed something that didn't manifest until after a reboot.Does Parallels install/change anything that could related to the firmware settings? Has anyone tried restoring a Mini (does this only happen to Minis?) from a backup or to a clean install... Then run the vtx-check pre and post installing Parallels to see what happens (can you restore the firmware too? - I don't know.) Just a couple of thoughts. Chris P.S. Nice work Parallels people. |
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May 23, 2006, 12:29 PM
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 Andrew @ Parallels Parallels Team Join: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,557 |
This problem happened sometimes on Mac Minis some time ago. Now with the latest firmware and Mac OS updates it supposed to be fixed. Did you have installed the latest firmware and software updates?
__________________ Best Regards, Andrew @ Parallels |
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May 23, 2006, 05:20 PM
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Andrew @ Parallels Parallels Team Join: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,557 |
Hmm... I don't know really. We did reproduce Mac Mini VT-x lock issue in our labs and have opened the ticket in Apple support. Not long ago they told us that with latest updates it fails to reproduce. So we rechecked it in our labs again - it doesn't reproduced anymore with latest updates.
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