Bld 3036: Does everyone encounter Windows XP reactivation demand?

silas said:
Let's be clear about this issue:

The reactivation issue ONLY affects people who use their Boot Camp partition as a VM.

Also, this has NOTHING to do with bugs in Parallels or Boot Camp, or the fact that they're both beta versions.

A VM emulates hardware, but it doesn't emulate the same hardware as what's really there. For instance, Parallels emulates a rather basic video card; you can't access the real video card. Boot Camp, on the other hand, gives Windows access to the actual hardware in the computer.

And Windows (Windows XP SP2, anyway, which is required for Boot Camp), BY DESIGN, forces a user to reactivate when it detects a major hardware change. For instance, if you switch out your video card for a better one, you'll have to reactivate your Windows install.

Basically, every time you switch between booting into Boot Camp and booting within Parallels, the Windows installation detects a bunch of major hardware differences (in fact, you tell it to load different hardware profiles when you make those two choices at the text prompt when it loads), and it tells you to reactivate. That's just the way it is. As someone pointed out in another thread, this basically punishes those of us who bought real copies of Windows, since pirated copies likly dispense with reactivation. It's bass-ackwards, but then what do you really expect from Microsoft?

All of the above is simple, unfortunate fact. Question is, what do we do about it?

1) Just keep reactivating every couple days. This frankly isn't such a pain in the neck... as long as Windows lets you keep doing it indefinitely. But can you do that?

2) Get Microsoft to patch Windows to accomodate this... maybe by allowing a Windows install to have two default hardware profiles instead of one, and only asking you to reactivate if it detects some third configuration. maybe they'll do this out of sheer generosity, when they notice the unusually high volume of repeated reactivations. Not likely. Maybe we could send lots of emails, or mention it on all the MS blogs, or - even better! - start a web petition!

3) Let Parallels, the more organized and well-financed organization (financed by us!), lean on MS to issue some kind of patch like that. MS might listen to Parallels, since MS ostensibly gets paid full price for every copy of Windows used in Boot Camp or Parallels, which is a damn sight more profitable than OEM versions.

4) Let Apple, the even better-organized and even better-financed organization (also financed by us!), lean on MS. Apple is big'n'mighty enough that MS might listen to them. And it's in Apple's best interest, since better integration via Boot Camp and Parallels will create more switchers.

5) Hope that Parallels creates some kind of software kludge to deal with it... maybe pester them a bit on their forums.

On a side note, this is kind of an interesting issue. It is in everyone's best interest to make this work better. Good integration between OS X, Parallels, Boot Camp and Windows would clearly benefit all three companies as well as consumers. But it's a collective action problem: who's going to pony up the resources to make it happen?

Yes, you are right. This XP activation only affects Boot Camp users who also want to use the Boot Camp partition as a VM. And it only affects people who bought retail copies of XP. If you have a Corporate version you will have no problems. And for Vista it will be even worse for all versions have activation. (That's why I will avoid Vista on my PC and my just received Macbook.) Microsoft simply does not trust its customers anymore.:mad:

But I do not think Apple will do anything on this issue. Do you think Apple really wants you to run Windows on your Mac?;)

By the way, for a PC, changing the video card may not necessarily trigger reactivation of XP. It is only when the hardware changes have been deemed "too much" that reactivation will be triggered. I do not think only changing the video card will be "too much".

I for myself will be using a Corporate version of XP on my Macbook (in Parallels and/or the future VMware).:D

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asgerhallas said:
Just a stupid question I guess... but what's a corporate edition of windows xp, and where do one get it?

The Corporate version of Windows XP is intended for use by organizations with large number of computers. It is not available to the general public. This version allows for a single volume license key (VLK) for multiple computers and does not require activation.

If you are working for a company which has volume licenses for Windows XP you may be able to get your hands on the Corporate version of Windows XP. The version of XP which is circulating on many pirate and bittorrent sites is a Corporate version with a pirated VLK, which is why people who use a pirate version of XP won't have the reactivation problem. This activation mechanism of XP only harasses the legitimate users while has no effect on pirates.:mad:

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NOT just a Bootcamp issue!

silas said:
Let's be clear about this issue:

The reactivation issue ONLY affects people who use their Boot Camp partition as a VM.

The above statement is ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE....

I just installed 3036 Beta and was told I would have to reactivate Windows XP Professional.

I have NEVER even downloaded Bootcamp, much less installed windows under Bootcamp.

SO, it is an issue for SOME even if we have NEVER installed Bootcamp!

Not sure what my options are at this point - uninstall Parallels and reinstall? Replace all the Parallels files from a backup? other ideas greatly appreciated.
 
It's possible that a new Parallels release changes the emulated hardware enough that reactivation may be required, but that is just a (seriously annoying IMO) call to Microsoft to get a new code -- you're reinstalling on the same machine). Although I suspect that if this were really the case, many more folks would have been complaining about it. So you may have another problem.

The reactivation issue we're all talking about on this thread is the requirement to reactivate every time operation is switched between Parallels and bootcamp.
 
Bld 3036: Does everyone encounter Windows XP reactivation demand?

My apologies if I hijacked the thread with an unrelated question... I was going by the title... it doesn't mention Bootcamp! And, somebody made a statement that is NOT true in my case... I have no way of knowing if it is a problem for others as well.

As for it might be "some other issue", I have no idea.. that's why I posted my experience here.

As far as it 'not being a big problem'... I TOTALLY disagree... Anyone counting on the "kindness" of Microsoft to either 1) resolve this problem, or 2) continue to reactivate Windows XP is, IMHO, dreaming! (there is already at least one post on here where somebody was "warned" by MS that they will NOT continue to do phone activations!)... and not all of us have access to a Corporate version of XP to avoid the problem.

And I do NOT want to be in the position of asking MS for a "favor"... I am fully willing to always run Parallels EITHER from Bootcamp OR launching under OS X to avoid a problem... which is exactly what I am trying to do now.

A LITTLE further info: I restored a version of my parallels VM (not the program, just the VM save files) from a backup and launched it (under 3036)... I did NOT get the msg to REACTIVATE... I have also NOT installed Parallels Tools yet on the restored VM... as I did in the version that wanted to be REACTIVATEd... don't know if that is what caused the "problem"...

thanks
 
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