Is my drive too large? Is there an ATA limit to the BIOS in Parallels?

Discussion in 'Parallels Desktop for Mac' started by sck_nogas, Apr 17, 2007.

  1. sck_nogas

    sck_nogas

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    I've been a happy BootCamp/Parallels user for the past two months, but recently I've had a problem.

    1) My old HD died and Apple swapped my 160GB for a 200GB, slower but larger... Okay, can't blame Parallels for that. ;)
    2) I re-did the SAME install steps to get a triple boot system.
    3) I used the SAME configuration for Parallels to boot off my Windows XP.
    Yet, now I can't boot Either the Linux Bootcamp partition or the Windows XP Bootcamp partition like I could before. The only differences between the two setups is...

    1) The new laptop rebuild has a 40GB larger drive.
    2) The new laptop rebuild is running Build 3188 vs Build 3186
    The errors I get are...

    Windows XP
    [​IMG]
    Linux
    [​IMG]

    So, I surmise that the Parallels BIOS has the ATA-5 limit aka the 128 GiB / 137 GB Barrier since my new partitioning looks like this...

    Code:
    Biko:~/Documents/Parallels sck$ diskutil list disk0
    /dev/disk0
       #:                   type name               size      identifier
       0:  GUID_partition_scheme                    *186.3 GB disk0
       1:                    EFI                    200.0 MB  disk0s1
       2:              Apple_HFS Biko               131.0 GB  disk0s2
       3:   Microsoft Basic Data UNTITLED           14.5 GB   disk0s3
       4:   Microsoft Basic Data Windows_XP         40.0 GB   disk0s4
    So, does anyone have a BootCamp partition that is past the ATA limit and Parallels Desktop can boot it? :confused:

    Scott
     
  2. Eru Ithildur

    Eru Ithildur

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    Are you able to boot INTO BootCamp?
     
  3. sck_nogas

    sck_nogas

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    Yes, I can boot into BootCamp just fine. In fact, I can boot BOTH the Linux and Windows XP Bootcamp images natively. I just can't get Parallels to boot/find either of them. :(

    Scott
     
  4. Eru Ithildur

    Eru Ithildur

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    It sounds like there is a BIOS imposed limit then... If so, it's sorta lame... I don't have a need for one that big yet, but I foreseeably do in a few years.
     
  5. sck_nogas

    sck_nogas

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    Well, we'll see what Parallels Support has to say.

    I've submitted this to them before I created the forum thread.

    Scott
     
  6. sck_nogas

    sck_nogas

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    Re: [Parallels #140704] [Web Support]: Not able to Boot my Bootcamp Windows XP

    Okay, sent a web ticket in On Tuesday, 4/17/07 around 11:20 AM PST....

    Got the automated reply on On Tuesday, 4/17/07 11:28 AM, which said... "Our support engineer will contact you within 3 business days"

    Sent an update on Tuesday, 4/17/07 11:35 AM.

    Sent another update on On Tuesday, 4/17/07 12:18 PM.

    Sent another update on On Friday, 4/20/2007 5:52 PM. After the 3 day window expired...

    It's now a full week, aka 5 business days with no response from support? How many days does it take to get a response?:mad:

    Scott

     
  7. Eru Ithildur

    Eru Ithildur

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    Parallels? Support here for this poor guy?

    If you are working on it, at least let him know!
     
  8. spectre

    spectre Parallels Team

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    We are working :)
    It's just takes time to reproduce this kind of configuration made using that not-so-official guide and find out the source of the problem :) We'll poke the developers about this too, just be patient please.
     
    Last edited: Apr 24, 2007
  9. sck_nogas

    sck_nogas

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    At last, a response!!!

    Okay, here's how to reproduce this (steps 1-8 have already been repeated by me)....

    1) Get a 200 GB drive (or larger)
    2) Install Mac OS-X 10.4 on it
    3) Update Mac OS-X to latest version
    4) Install BootCamp 1.2, create a 20 GB partition for Windows. Leaving 180Gb for Mac.
    5) Install Windows XP (as normal)
    6) Install Parallels Desktop
    7) Try to boot Bootcamp partition.
    8) Boot Windows via Bootcamp to show that Windows does boot.
    9) Repeat steps 7 & 8 while debugging... :)
    10) Send me a alpha/beta version to test. :p
    11) Announce new version, dance and sing. GO TO NEXT ISSUE.

    Step 7 fails. I did this with my weird triple boot config, and then did it again with a plain normal OS-X install with nothing else besides 10.4, bootcamp 1.2, Windows XP SP2, and Parallels Desktop build 3188.

    Scott
    PS> Thank you for the response, and double thanks to Eru Ithildur for the compassion and plea for support!:cool:
     
  10. sck_nogas

    sck_nogas

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    Problem Solved. User confused.

    Okay, now I'm REALLY puzzled...

    I got this cryptic reply from Parallels Support.
    So, I changed my PVS file entry to match and was all ready to say, "it failed" when the DARN thing booted!

    I had a minor hiccup with the 'hit ctrl-alt to free keyboard' step, since when I booted the Bootcamp Windows image in Parallels, I did not have a working keyboard & mouse on the initial boot. So, I attached the USB device "Apple keyboard and trackpad" to the Windows side and could now login and type. But since, I did not have the Parallels Tools installed, I added them and re-booted the Windows side, and it worked, life was great. Until I tried to email Parallels support back...

    My keyboard didnt' work. Hmmm, neither did the Apple trackpad. Hmmm but my Bluetooth mouse works and it can switch in and out of the Parallels window...

    So, I plugged in a USB keyboard, typed the email, and rebooted my Mac.

    I booted Windows XP via Bootcamp, it worked.
    I booted Fedora Linux via Bootcamp, it worked too.
    I boot Mac OS-X with a working keyboard and trackpad now, and tried booting Windows via Parallels, and it's happy too.

    So, I got an answer from support. It works, but I don't get how it worked.
    Code:
    Biko:~/Documents/Parallels sck$ diskutil list disk0
    /dev/disk0
       #:                   type name               size      identifier
       0:  GUID_partition_scheme                    *186.3 GB disk0
       1:                    EFI                    200.0 MB  disk0s1
       2:              Apple_HFS Biko               131.0 GB  disk0s2
       3:   Microsoft Basic Data UNTITLED           15.0 GB   disk0s3
       4:   Microsoft Basic Data Windows_XP         40.0 GB   disk0s4
    So they asked me to add the Linux Bootcamp partition as a second entry in the Windows Partition statement for Parallels? I wonder if it's because that partition is just on the other side of the 132 GB boundary? Who knows...

    I've asked support, why it worked, but I'm happy now.

    Scott :)
     
  11. sck_nogas

    sck_nogas

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    Still having the same problem

    I've updated the "Triple Boot Bootcamp & Parallels working for Windows but not Linux." thread about this issue.

    Basically...

    • MacBook Pro with 200GB drive, formatted 131GB Mac, 15GB Linux, 40GB Windows.
    • rEFIt instlled as a boot selector.
    • All three OS's boot natively and are fully operational.
    • After adding the Linux partition details to the Bootcamp line of the Windows PVS file, Windows boots under Parallels.
    • When booting just the Linux partition, GRUB complains "Error 18: Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS"

    So, how does one solve this issue?

    Scott
     

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