I'll try one more time to state the case, Steve - and I appreciate your interest. What I proposed was to isolate the beta activity from the production/purchased product support, and to ensure the beta release information does not get mixed up with production updates as happened with beta 3036 and the corrective beta updates for that release. I also proposed that there be a clear path of updates for the version of Parallels I and others paid for that is focused on completing and correcting brochure claims and discovered software shortcomings. I and others would like our purchased product to be stable and complete in accordance with the published specifications. The reason for these proposals can be found by a casual reading of this forum. Because this is a public arena we have an opportunity to help Parallels restructure the interactive element of their product and I think it is in our best interest to do exactly that. It is in their best interest to provide better clarity in the beta program both in their beta product expectations (known bugs, for example - ever see a known bugs report from them ) and what they want to see in expected feedback. That is to say, they provide prospective beta testers with a simple contract that defines what is expected in return for being given a beta copy of the product. There is no reason for that forum to be a public forum. All these are debatable points and having been raised, should be. What I have no patience for are net nannies that try to make me the talking point, or who would attempt to define for the masses what constitutes a valid topic for discussion. If Andrew were to chime in and say "Mr. Peterson, we appreciate your interest and thoughts, but we'd like to take them off line", I would oblige because we are all guests here of Parallels and they are due that respect. Neither Don nor Val are empowered to define what is or is not on topic. That they do so is lamentable but not likely correctable. I don't believe there is a single case of net nannies accomplishing anything useful with their self-endowed nannying so learning from history is not working for them. Other than heaping on mounds of demotivation, they have offered no useful contribution to this topic.