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travisdavis
How do you publish app using winxp as the server?
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Sergei
Hello,
You will still need Windows 2000\2003 Terminal Server present in the system.
By setting Terminal Server on Windows XP you will be breaking Microsoft licensing policies.
You will still need Windows 2000\2003 Terminal Server present in the system.
By setting Terminal Server on Windows XP you will be breaking Microsoft licensing policies.
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netkepala
Win XP Pro as low cost terminal server
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mwhite@erggroup.com
Ok... This was an exercise of "Is it possible or not"... :wink:
If you want fore go any support from any vendor pretty much period, you can try the following. If you hunt around on the web you will find various instructions on how to allow Windows XP SP2 to handle up to 5 terminal server sessions. How? I won't go into how - the sites you'll find tell you how. Short version, it works. :shock:
Install IIS for XP on the machine..
Then install 2X App Server.
Simple as that. You have a baby terminal server running 2X. 8)
NOTE: It doesn't seem entirely reliable in this set up, and since it was simply a test in if its possible or not, I'm not to phased in trouble shooting it.
If you want fore go any support from any vendor pretty much period, you can try the following. If you hunt around on the web you will find various instructions on how to allow Windows XP SP2 to handle up to 5 terminal server sessions. How? I won't go into how - the sites you'll find tell you how. Short version, it works. :shock:
Install IIS for XP on the machine..
Then install 2X App Server.
Simple as that. You have a baby terminal server running 2X. 8)
NOTE: It doesn't seem entirely reliable in this set up, and since it was simply a test in if its possible or not, I'm not to phased in trouble shooting it.
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netkepala
XP based Terminal Server
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mwhite@erggroup.com
As I said, it was a proof of concept test - would it or wouldn't it work. Since we have mostly 2K3 in our server farms, we will see how 2X runs on that (compared with our current Citrix environment). I will look into ThinServer XP and see how that compares. Thanks for the product placement.
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netkepala
Latest version
Good news
I have tested the latest version of 2X Apps server ( 5.1 ) with the latest version of ThinServer XP and the filter by user now work very well
Infact all through out the testing, ThinServer XP work just like a regular terminal server
www.aikotech.com/thinserver.htm
Any other terminal server worth checking out ?
Tks
Good news
I have tested the latest version of 2X Apps server ( 5.1 ) with the latest version of ThinServer XP and the filter by user now work very well
Infact all through out the testing, ThinServer XP work just like a regular terminal server
www.aikotech.com/thinserver.htm
Any other terminal server worth checking out ?
Tks
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netkepala
port 80
Oops forgot to add that you need to open up port 80 on the firewall of ThinServer XP in order for 2X Apps server to work
Oops forgot to add that you need to open up port 80 on the firewall of ThinServer XP in order for 2X Apps server to work
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srb123
XP Unlimited
This app will give you 3 connections for Free.
Use the enterprise edition if you want to connect to a domain.
So far has been very reliable for me to give apps to a few remote workers.
www.xpunlimited.com
This app will give you 3 connections for Free.
Use the enterprise edition if you want to connect to a domain.
So far has been very reliable for me to give apps to a few remote workers.
www.xpunlimited.com
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netkepala
apps publishing conflicts
Hi,
XP unlimited is not bad but their application publishing conflicts with 2X Apps server apps publishing
Hehe XP unlimited is a replacement product for 2X apps server :shock:
whereas ThinServer is more of a complementary product :wink:
Hi,
XP unlimited is not bad but their application publishing conflicts with 2X Apps server apps publishing
Hehe XP unlimited is a replacement product for 2X apps server :shock:
whereas ThinServer is more of a complementary product :wink:
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srb123
XP unlimited
But the App publishing isnt as mature as 2X, is quite ugly, and not very intuitive to setup fo more than a few users/groups.
For the cost id prefer to turn the XP Unlimited feature off for App Publishing and let 2X fly!!!
Yeee Haaaah.
Cheers,
Sam
But the App publishing isnt as mature as 2X, is quite ugly, and not very intuitive to setup fo more than a few users/groups.
For the cost id prefer to turn the XP Unlimited feature off for App Publishing and let 2X fly!!!
Yeee Haaaah.
Cheers,
Sam
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DaemonB
I have XP as an app server
I applied the WinXP TS sala patch
http://www.kood.org/terminal-server-patch/
Then installed 2X. It works well for 3 users, but you cannot connect to a domain.
There are other hacks out there that allow you to have unlimited rdp sessions on XP, but again the domain issue.
If you want to have XP as a fully functional domain integrated terminal server, then you have to purchase a commercial product for that.
I applied the WinXP TS sala patch
http://www.kood.org/terminal-server-patch/
Then installed 2X. It works well for 3 users, but you cannot connect to a domain.
There are other hacks out there that allow you to have unlimited rdp sessions on XP, but again the domain issue.
If you want to have XP as a fully functional domain integrated terminal server, then you have to purchase a commercial product for that.
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netkepala
working in domain
The kood.org is a good patch for 3 users and those NOT in domain AND not in a wide area network. As this is based on older pre SP2 software, it may have security issues
srb123, you are right about Apps publishing in xpunlimited .. butt ugly :wink:
For those wanting DOMAIN compatibility, you may go for commercial software such as ThinServer XP or XP unlimited
www.aikotech.com/thinserver.htm
xpunlimited.com
However I find ThinServer XP is easier to install and configure
The kood.org is a good patch for 3 users and those NOT in domain AND not in a wide area network. As this is based on older pre SP2 software, it may have security issues
srb123, you are right about Apps publishing in xpunlimited .. butt ugly :wink:
For those wanting DOMAIN compatibility, you may go for commercial software such as ThinServer XP or XP unlimited
www.aikotech.com/thinserver.htm
xpunlimited.com
However I find ThinServer XP is easier to install and configure
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netkepala
new terminal server on the way
Hmmm I have just received an email from the developer of ThinServer XP that they will soon release a new version of ThinServer which runs on Windows 2003 server
I will test out their beta version of ThinServer for Win2003
In the meantime we can still check out ThinServer XP demo copy at :-
www.aikotech.com/download.htm
Hmmm I have just received an email from the developer of ThinServer XP that they will soon release a new version of ThinServer which runs on Windows 2003 server
I will test out their beta version of ThinServer for Win2003
In the meantime we can still check out ThinServer XP demo copy at :-
www.aikotech.com/download.htm
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Sergei
Hello,
It is illegal to run Terminal Services on Windows XP.
Windows XP allows you to have 1 remote connection at any given time.
There are companies on the market which offer Terminal Servers on XP. They are actually breaking Microsoft EULA.
It is illegal to run Terminal Services on Windows XP.
Windows XP allows you to have 1 remote connection at any given time.
There are companies on the market which offer Terminal Servers on XP. They are actually breaking Microsoft EULA.
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netkepala
Not really
Of course it's not illegal. MS is not stupid, they will not bother as long it's properly licensed. Read below, section 1.3 and 1.4
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/proeula.mspx
There are already some companies doing it like Aikotech and ThinStuff
http://www.aikotech.com/thinserver.htm
http://thinstuff.com
Of course it's not illegal. MS is not stupid, they will not bother as long it's properly licensed. Read below, section 1.3 and 1.4
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/proeula.mspx
There are already some companies doing it like Aikotech and ThinStuff
http://www.aikotech.com/thinserver.htm
http://thinstuff.com
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voip
XP for TS/TC
Besides the M$ licensing agreement I could not imagine telling a client of mine to use XP in a terminal services role for a thin client deployment.
I would consider XP Pro a weak server platform and would never serve out a business critical application on it.
Win 2003 and the 2X solution however are proving to be a very robust, customizable and ideal solution in many different environments.
Even in small business 2003 with TS Cals and 2X can be an affordable solution. Well worth the client's investment. XP server deployments on the other hand would probably just loose you more business than it's worth as you pick up the pieces from unstable server crashing and poor performance.
This may be ok for playing in a home network but not business. I just thought I would mention this in the event some end user would read this thread and actually think it's a real option...
Besides the M$ licensing agreement I could not imagine telling a client of mine to use XP in a terminal services role for a thin client deployment.
I would consider XP Pro a weak server platform and would never serve out a business critical application on it.
Win 2003 and the 2X solution however are proving to be a very robust, customizable and ideal solution in many different environments.
Even in small business 2003 with TS Cals and 2X can be an affordable solution. Well worth the client's investment. XP server deployments on the other hand would probably just loose you more business than it's worth as you pick up the pieces from unstable server crashing and poor performance.
This may be ok for playing in a home network but not business. I just thought I would mention this in the event some end user would read this thread and actually think it's a real option...
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netkepala
Try it 1st
Thanks for the input but there's a saying "Don't knock it till you try it"
XP can be very stable if you have a competent system engineer. Our uptime is 90 - 180 days
Guess my company and srb123's company must be picking up the pieces after all our servers going down ( NOT! ) :roll:
Thanks for the input but there's a saying "Don't knock it till you try it"
XP can be very stable if you have a competent system engineer. Our uptime is 90 - 180 days
Guess my company and srb123's company must be picking up the pieces after all our servers going down ( NOT! ) :roll:
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voip
Try it 1st
We all have our targeted marketplaces. I glad to hear yours is working for you. My post was not meant to offend. My apologies if it did.
We all have our targeted marketplaces. I glad to hear yours is working for you. My post was not meant to offend. My apologies if it did.
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Lee
Bear in mind , the system requirements for ApplicationServer state Windows 2000/2003 Terminal Services.
While you may currently have a working solution, 2X is only ever gonna test and support the recommended platforms. Therefore if a new version comes out and doesnt work with your solution, you are on your own, without support.
Im glad your solution is workign for you , but bear in mind when implementing systems you should always consider, the 1 year, 3 year, 5 year plan
Users become familiar with a working system and when it suddently doesnt work anymore or you cant add the new features due to lack of forward planning then it causes problems.
While you may currently have a working solution, 2X is only ever gonna test and support the recommended platforms. Therefore if a new version comes out and doesnt work with your solution, you are on your own, without support.
Im glad your solution is workign for you , but bear in mind when implementing systems you should always consider, the 1 year, 3 year, 5 year plan
Users become familiar with a working system and when it suddently doesnt work anymore or you cant add the new features due to lack of forward planning then it causes problems.