More than 4 CPU/8GB in Standard Version

David MC said:
@GampaA@Parallels you said "The additional Virtual Machine ram will be available on Parallels Desktop Pro edition not in Parallels Desktop standard".
Does this apply to CPUs as well? If so, then why am i only able to pick max 8 CPU in my 10 CPU mac (it is an M1) ?
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You NEVER want to allocate all of the physical cores to a VM.
The way VMs provide work to the CPU depends on how many cores are allocate to it and how many cores are available on the host CPU. The VM cannot break apart the cores into smaller chunks and allocate those smaller chunks to the physical CPU.
What does this mean?
It means that all cores on the host CPU must be free before the guest VM can use the CPU. This creates a situation known as CPU wait time. It will drastically slow down the guest VM because it's constantly waiting for the host CPU to have all cores free. Parallels is doing you a favor by leaving 2 cores on the host machine free because 8 cores will become available a lot more than all 10.
I hope this explanation about virtualization helps.
 
Nemensi said:
I would like to use more than 4 CPU/8GB in Standard version as it was possible in all previous versions up to Parallels Desktop 10. Please vote if you like it too.
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I agree. I will not buy parallels until the perpetual license version is available with 8 CPU cores and 16GB RAM.
 
JonathanA9 said:
I would even pay a little more to get a perpetual license with more allocatable CPU cores and RAM.
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Hello, perpetual license is only available in Standard Edition of Parallels Desktop. If you need more than 8GB vRAM you need to purchase Parallels Desktop Pro Edition subscription.
 
DebasmitaM@Parallels said:
Hello, perpetual license is only available in Standard Edition of Parallels Desktop. If you need more than 8GB vRAM you need to purchase Parallels Desktop Pro Edition subscription.
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Subscriptions are stupid and I will never buy one. I need a perpetual license where I pay once and it doesn't expire. The perpetual license needs more cores and more RAM. Computing needs have evolved greatly since the highly-limited perpetual version was released with 4 cores and 8GB RAM.

The perpetual version needs 8 cores and 16GB RAM or you will not get a cent from me.
 
Entry level macs have gotten way more cores than when the 4 core/8GB RAM limit was set for the parallels perpetual license. The perpetual license now needs to be set to 8 cores/16 GB RAM. Otherwise, Crossover (by CodeWeavers) is a far better solution for the price than parallels.
 
TonyC10 said:
I have been a loyal customer of Parallels for almost 5 years now. I decided to upgrade an older MacPro and give it new life with NEW CPU's and Ram and a Nvidia GTX 980 card that has 8Gbs of Vram. I updated my Parallels 9 to 14 today to use the additional Vram on the Graphics card and was SURPISED to see a limitation on the CPU's and Ram availble in the STANDARD version. I have to say . . THIS IS AN INCENTIVE for me to setup a Bootcamp partition and DUMP Parallels off my box. Really pissed off that I have to pay an additionl 49.99 (after already paying 49.99 to upgrade) to use the hardware in my box. Really Piss Poor on Parallels part.:mad:
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Exactly. Everyone feels this way. You are not alone. Parallels needs to rid the standard version of these arbitrary RAM/CPU limits, or I will use CrossOver instead (and give Parallels none of my $$$).
 
I think there might be a need to reprice the Apple chip machines, after all, they don't have that many CPU cores unless you go with the m1u
 
Nemensi said:
I would like to use more than 4 CPU/8GB in Standard version as it was possible in all previous versions up to Parallels Desktop 10. Please vote if you like it too.
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I support this, but not because the "Old versions" had it, but rather because 4 CPU cores are not enough for some games which are CPU heavy, or even apps like GOG Galaxy...
The base version of Parallels is used mostly for games and app compatibility by home users, I understand that they have imposed limit of 4 Cores due to most CPU's having 8 cores, which is roughly 50% of the CPU cores and in theory "enough". However, the new M1/2 Pro/ Max CPU's have 10 or more cores, which means that we now no-longer receive ~50% of the cores, plus those are ARM cores which are struggling to translate.
I've read all the reviews about 5 cores behaving badly in Windows, which means that 6 cores should be good middle ground. I also checked lots of benchmarks for games which show that 6 cores is optimal for performance and provide in some cases up to +12% more FPS.
The "Pro's" that need the virtualization for work would still want to use at least 8 out of the 10 cores(compiling or using more heavy apps), thus I think that the 6 cores for the base version is optimal.
As for the RAM, 8 is fairly ok, but 10 gigs should be fine, Windows itself eats like 2.5 gigs and the games often require more to run properly, so on 16 Gig machine 10 or 12 gig limit sounds feasible.
The pros that have 32/ 64 or more ram would of course want to assign more to the VM, thus the "Pro" market would still not be affected.
 
TsetsoZ said:
The base version of Parallels is used mostly for games and app compatibility by home users, I understand that they have imposed limit of 4 Cores due to most CPU's having 8 cores, which is roughly 50% of the CPU cores and in theory "enough".
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The limit exists only to 'motivate' users to purchase a subscription. It was introduced with PD 12.1. All previous versions were not technically limited in terms of CPU and memory.
 
TsetsoZ said:
I support this, but not because the "Old versions" had it, but rather because 4 CPU cores are not enough for some games which are CPU heavy, or even apps like GOG Galaxy...
The base version of Parallels is used mostly for games and app compatibility by home users, I understand that they have imposed limit of 4 Cores due to most CPU's having 8 cores, which is roughly 50% of the CPU cores and in theory "enough". However, the new M1/2 Pro/ Max CPU's have 10 or more cores, which means that we now no-longer receive ~50% of the cores, plus those are ARM cores which are struggling to translate.
I've read all the reviews about 5 cores behaving badly in Windows, which means that 6 cores should be good middle ground. I also checked lots of benchmarks for games which show that 6 cores is optimal for performance and provide in some cases up to +12% more FPS.
The "Pro's" that need the virtualization for work would still want to use at least 8 out of the 10 cores(compiling or using more heavy apps), thus I think that the 6 cores for the base version is optimal.
As for the RAM, 8 is fairly ok, but 10 gigs should be fine, Windows itself eats like 2.5 gigs and the games often require more to run properly, so on 16 Gig machine 10 or 12 gig limit sounds feasible.
The pros that have 32/ 64 or more ram would of course want to assign more to the VM, thus the "Pro" market would still not be affected.
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Nemensi said:
The limit exists only to 'motivate' users to purchase a subscription. It was introduced with PD 12.1. All previous versions were not technically limited in terms of CPU and memory.
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Nicely stated. Parallels's arbitrary CPU/RAM limits are getting long in the tooth. Fortunately VMWare is launching an alternative to Parallels without these limits and it looks really good. I think I'm going to switch to VMWare for this reason.
 
JonathanA9 said:
Nicely stated. Parallels's arbitrary CPU/RAM limits are getting long in the tooth. Fortunately VMWare is launching an alternative to Parallels without these limits and it looks really good. I think I'm going to switch to VMWare for this reason.
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Well I agree to some degree for VMWare Fusion, however the GPU performance there is no where near the one in Parallels currently.
Thus, parallels can "afford" for now to keep those limits.
However, considering long-term investment, Fusion is way cheaper. Just two years of parallels pro subscription become way more expensive than Fusion.
Anyway, I also have Fusion 12 license, if they manage to get their GPU things done soon, i'll probably jump back.
 
I've been reporting spam linked posts (like the one above) for a while, but last time I checked, they were still available - is there any point reporting them or not?
 
TsetsoZ said:
Well I agree to some degree for VMWare Fusion, however the GPU performance there is no where near the one in Parallels currently.
Thus, parallels can "afford" for now to keep those limits.
However, considering long-term investment, Fusion is way cheaper. Just two years of parallels pro subscription become way more expensive than Fusion.
Anyway, I also have Fusion 12 license, if they manage to get their GPU things done soon, i'll probably jump back.
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Regardless, I'm not giving parallels another dollar until they remove their anti-consumer software locks. Consumer edition needs to be unlimited cores and unlimited RAM, or I won't even consider it.
 
JonathanA9 said:
Regardless, I'm not giving parallels another dollar until they remove their anti-consumer software locks. Consumer edition needs to be unlimited cores and unlimited RAM, or I won't even consider it.
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That would be nice, but while I Do agree that the limits are ridiculous, from a business standpoint, there has to be some separation between the desktop version and subs. I hesitate to say that the CS aspect would be it (unlimited while subbed), but that's a joke from what I can see anyway. Realistically, they need to give us at least 8 cores / 16 Gb at this point since the vGPU ram takes up to half of that.
 
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