Virtue Desktops and RC Full-Screen issue

joshv · May 18, 2006

Reporting a bug I would like to see fixed in next RC.

Running Parallels RC and Virtue Desktop (v0.52r138) on MBP 17".

With the VM in full-screen, if I switch to another desktop, the VM flips out of full-screen. Rather weird behavior, and it didn't do this in Beta6 - it used to flip from the full-screen VM to the correct virtue desktop seamlessly.

If we could have the old functionality back, it would be great!

Thanks.

jeliker · May 18, 2006

I can confirm firm this behavior. I am using a MBP with Virtues and can no longer flip from desktop to desktop while retaining fullscreen mode in Parallels. IMHO that was a great way to use it (and dropped a few jaws when I would show it).

joshv · May 18, 2006

Dropped every jaw I showed it to....

It's a Mac, no it's a PC, it's a Mac, no it's a PC. It was great...

mcg · May 18, 2006

Yeah, it's really sweet, isn't it

kaufman · May 18, 2006

Its even worse for me, I have the switch desktop functions mapped to [Control]-[Shift]-[Left Arrow] and [Control]-[Shift]-[Right Arrow]. Parallels has started trapping those as well. It looks like they have implemented code to trap all of the keys.

This needs to be configurable as they have now disabled a number of functions needed by the system.

Michael

maverick808 · May 18, 2006

kaufman said:
Its even worse for me, I have the switch desktop functions mapped to [Control]-[Shift]-[Left Arrow] and [Control]-[Shift]-[Right Arrow]. Parallels has started trapping those as well. It looks like they have implemented code to trap all of the keys.

This needs to be configurable as they have now disabled a number of functions needed by the system.

Michael

Yup, trapping all the keys is a bad idea. I don't know why they've done that. Both full-screen switching and keyboard capture were perfect in Beta 6. The RC is definitely a step back in my view.

macmansc · May 18, 2006

It seems that things are working properly for me. The only problem I have is going to full screen, I don't have a visible mouse cursor right away.

zyprexa · May 18, 2006

I agree. I use VirtueDesktop and Parallels. Being able to switch between two full screen modes with Virtue was a very important feature. This is definitely a step back.

Also, Parallels boots into fullscreen mode but now changes the MacOS resolution so all my OSx windows get resized. I went into preferences and changed the setting but I still get the same effect.

kaufman · May 18, 2006

zyprexa said:
I agree. I use VirtueDesktop and Parallels. Being able to switch between two full screen modes with Virtue was a very important feature. This is definitely a step back.

I agree, but it is not quite as bad as it seems. If you do [Control]-[Alt] to release the cursor then you can use your Virtuekeystrokes again.

Michael

maverick808 · May 18, 2006

kaufman said:
I agree, but it is not quite as bad as it seems. If you do [Control]-[Alt] to release the cursor then you can use your Virtuekeystrokes again.

Michael

If you do that in full screen it drops you out of full screen and flickers for a while as it resizes. Before you could switch instantly, now any switch to or from full screen takes quite a while.

joshv · May 18, 2006

macmansc said:
It seems that things are working properly for me. The only problem I have is going to full screen, I don't have a visible mouse cursor right away.

That was fixed for me by updating the dirvers in the VM.

kaufman · May 18, 2006

maverick808 said:
If you do that in full screen it drops you out of full screen and flickers for a while as it resizes. Before you could switch instantly, now any switch to or from full screen takes quite a while.

THat's interesting. You are the second person to say that it drops out of full screen mode when you switch desktops. Mine does not do that. I can switch desktops multiple times without ever leaving full screen mode. Odd. Did you update the client tools?

Michael

maverick808 · May 18, 2006

kaufman said:
THat's interesting. You are the second person to say that it drops out of full screen mode when you switch desktops. Mine does not do that. I can switch desktops multiple times without ever leaving full screen mode. Odd. Did you update the client tools?

Michael

Yes I installed the client tools again on my iMac and even did a complete reinstall of Parallels and XP on my MBP and get the same behaviour on both.

When you say switch desktops I assume you mean using Virtue yes? What keyboard shortcut are you using to do that? The Apple key no longer works in the RC now and I can't find any other key combo that works either.

kaufman · May 18, 2006

maverick808 said:
When you say switch desktops I assume you mean using Virtue yes? What keyboard shortcut are you using to do that? The Apple key no longer works in the RC now and I can't find any other key combo that works either.

Correct, I am using VIrtue to switch desktops.

To switch desktops, I do a

[Control]-[Shift] (to release the input key)
[Control]-[Shift]-[Left Arrow] (to switch away from the Windows XP full screen)
[Control]-[Shift]-[Right Arrow] (to switch back to the Windows XP full screen)

mcg · May 18, 2006

Yeah, mine drops out too.

quixos · May 19, 2006

clarification request

when using virtue desktop to switch desktops, parallels leaves full screen mode.

please clarify whether this is a purposeful change, or a bug.

your truly,
paid customer

kaufman · May 19, 2006

quixos said:
when using virtue desktop to switch desktops, parallels leaves full screen mode.

please confirm whether this is a purposeful change, or a bug.

On my MBP when using virtue desktop to switch desktops, parallels does not leave full screen mode.

Have you updated the client tools? What keystroke sequence are you using to switch?

quixos · May 19, 2006

i will change keys and experiment. will edit this post with my results.

tacit_one · May 19, 2006

quixos said:
when using virtue desktop to switch desktops, parallels leaves full screen mode.
please clarify whether this is a purposeful change, or a bug.

This is a designed change. Parallels was decided to leave full-screen mode in the case of lost focus. This was designed to prevent unpredictable behaviour of application in the case of cmd+tab-like key combinations.
Virtue Desktop causes Parallels to loose focus, as the result - it leaves fullscreen.
No way was found to distinguish reasons of focus loose between virtue desktop switch and user cmd+tab command - that is why for the moment it was desided to keep the most "safe" behaviour.
But we will try to find a reasonable workaround for Virtue Desktop application asap.

quixos · May 19, 2006

i'm sure what you said means something. i myself didn't experience anything unexpected. it just worked, and it was fluid.

disappointing.