Windows 11 on Arm

Discussion in 'Parallels Desktop for Apple Silicon (M1) Mac' started by kundanno, Jun 23, 2021.

  1. PK3GLY

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    Regarding the Insider Edition updates and the release version: if I want to have a release version installed, does that exist for M1 computers? If not yet, when a release version become available and is compatible with M1, would I have to uninstall the insider and install the release version (since you stated that the Insider would never update to release)?
     
  2. Mike Boreham

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    You can install the release version Windows 11 ARM on M1 Mac VMs. You have to get it from uupdump.net
     
  3. MichaelH63

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    It does exist and you need to create a new VM. https://forum.parallels.com/threads/how-to-install-windows-11-retail-version.355463/
     
  4. PK3GLY

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    And can this version be activated with a Win 10 Pro product key?
     
  5. MichaelH63

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    Yes.
     
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  6. Federico10

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    Hi.
    MacBook Pro 16" with M1Pro.
    I follow the instruction in this post but the one with the Mac instruction but doesn't work so I came back to the windows solution - I have parallels with the insider preview installed and I built the windows 11 home ARM64 iso. I have a couple of question that I don't understand:
    1) This ISO is the "final" version of the stable release and it will be updated from now on?
    2) Which license I have to buy in order to activate the product (retail, VL, CD key etc etc)
    3) Can I buy the windows 10 home serial in order to activate, so I can save money?
    4) In this way I can forget about the installed version under parallels and I can use the damn 2 software that doesn't exits on Mac?
    5) Is there something that I forget please tell me.
    6) where can I get the license at low price , for the Italian version?

    Thanks
     
  7. MichaelH63

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    1) If you built any Windows build from 22000.194 to 22000.318, you have a final release version with 22000.318 being the latest update. If you go to your Insider settings after installing that build, you should see that you are not in the Insider Program. You will continue to get updates to the retail/OEM version.
    2) Possibly none. If you already have a retail license for Windows Home 10 or 11 for a previous Intel installation that is linked to your Microsoft account, you can just use that for the ARM installation too if you no longer need your Intel Windows to run.
    3) Yes, you said you built the Windows Home iso, so you can use a Home key.
    4) For the most part, yes. Keep in mind that Windows has to emulate the x86/x64 software to make it run on ARM. If software doesn't run, you might have to try the compatibility settings. In my personal experience all x86 software did eventually work and most of it without any changes to the settings, but you might have software that won't run. Also keep in mind that Windows can only emulate apps and not drivers. If you need a driver it has to be for ARM.
    6) The problem with licenses at low price is that those might not work. You can get a retail license a little cheaper on Amazon and maybe other places than directly from Microsoft, but it will still be expensive. If you see licenses for a significantly lower price it's almost guaranteed that they are either OEM licenses (they can only be used once and not be transferred to another computer or another VM) or Volume licenses that may or may not actually work.
     
  8. Federico10

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    1) 22000.220. So ok.
    2) I have only a windows 7 home serial. I'll try but I doubt that work.
    3) ok
    4) ok
    6) I found a website that sell OEM license, Retail CDKey license or standard license. Which one? Very low price but for windows 10 home serial.
     
  9. MichaelH63

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    2) Worth a try. At least for Windows 10 there were some posts that a Win 7 or 8 license works.
    6) I would choose a retail license. Those can be used again, but they are more expensive. I have never heard the term standard license before. You can find more information (including how to check the type of license) here.
     
  10. nsayer

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    Personally, I would be shocked if Parallels weren't at least trying to negotiate the right to be an ARM Windows "OEM" so they could sell licenses for Parallels users.
    I can't imagine why Microsoft would not want that business unless they were being pressured one way or another by their other OEM customers to exclude Parallels and by extension Apple's customer base. Such pressure would almost certainly be a violation of anti-competitive behavior laws, but it's not like Microsoft has never been accused of that sort of thing before.
     
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  11. Federico10

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    Everything's works.
    The Windows 7 home license from an old laptop works like a charm.

    When I reinstalled Monterey and again parallels and windows it doesn't activate. But I manage to with "I have new hardware" option.

    Perfect.

    Now I have problems with the software I use under windows. I move to another section of the form. Thanks very much for your help.
     
  12. DanP9

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    just installed the release version of Win 11 ARM on Parallels. Seems to be WAY slower than the insider preview version that shows a much later build version as well. x64 apps are running much faster in the insider preview version for some reason. IMHO - stick with the insider preview if you are running legacy x86/64 apps.
     
  13. WZ_1

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    I just installed windows 11 arm64 22000.282 but found its x86/x64 emulation performance kind of lacking. May I know what is your insider preview version number?
     
  14. RomanC5

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    I'm not able to get Adobe Reader to work after install on Win 11 - it just freezes everytime.
     
  15. WilliamT14

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    While it's not a fully disclosed agreement, there has been a number of leaks that show that Microsoft and Qualcomm have an exclusivity agreement for the Windows 11 ARM64 OEM edition. This makes sense as Microsoft and Qualcomm worked together to develop and release the Surface Pro X and the two ARM64 processors SQ1 and SQ2. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/d/surface-pro-x/8XTMB6C575MD
    This agreement has been in place for a while, but some of the leaks are saying that the agreement is coming up for expiration. This means you may see Lenovo and many others begin to also release ARM64 Windows 11 laptops. At around that time, I suspect that both Apple and other businesses, including Parallels will be able to negotiate with Microsoft. Until this time, even if you have a Windows 11 Pro product key, it's not technically supported by the EULA and is the reason Parallel's continues to place the onus on the end-user for ensuring Microsoft compliance.
    That said, I am appreciating how well it works with Insider Preview and hope that this is all resolved before the preview eventually expires.
     

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